Post by Christ Rose========================================
On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 10:28:36 +1000
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> The Bible Can Make You Wise For Salvation Through Faith In Christ
You see, John? Listen carefully.
The bible can make you wise, but what for? For something. What?
Salvation. Through what? Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, a Person.
Correct. And this proves the point. The way to become wise to salvation
through faith in Christ, is through a Spirit enabled understanding of
the Scripture (1 Corinthians 2:10-13).
This reply was unexpected...
Do you see the tweak, the exchange of the truth for a lie?
Subtle, isn't it.
Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, a Person and in Person.
They touch the white wall and pollute the scriptures to their own sinner
Christian sinner state end.
Now watch the verses...and not the sinner Christian perceptions of his
bible...
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the
Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
By His Spirit.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of
man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the
Spirit of God.
The Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the
spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely
given to us of God.
Through His Spirit.
Through God Himself, through His Holy Spirit.
That is how the good news traveled throughout the world.
Not through "ink," but through the hearts of those who are His...
2Co_3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of
Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of
the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Paul is writing the above through his ***experience,*** not through his
scripture study, in the Spirit of the living God.
Post by Christ RoseOnce you receive the Lord in His fullness, meaning, in surrender, the
wisdom is realised; you don't keep going back to get wisdom for
salvation if you are already saved...
Those who know the Lord, and who have a heart after God, continue to
delight in daily meditation on God's word, so they can live according to
them, be comforted by them, and grow in their likeness to God (Psalm
119; 1 Peter 2:2).
A sinner Christian hasn't got a likeness of spirit to God; there is no
sin in Christ Jesus.
A sinner Christian is in the likeness of a relationship, a depiction, a
reproduction of the world; that is why he sins.
Post by Christ Rosehttps://christrose.news/2024/09/what-attitude-does-bible-show-that.html
(KJV)
Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are
known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements,
whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
The bible, once the Lord Jesus Christ is received, is a beggarly
element (written word, ink), something that pales into insignificance
compared to the glory of the presence of the Lord in His Holy Spirit.
Lies from Satan. The beggarly elements mentioned in Galatians and
Colossians, are not referring to the word of God,
Here again he is slithering in his "perfect" sinner Christian context.
It is flying over his head because he is of the earth, carnal, fleshly,
and can't comprehend what is being said in the Spirit; neither does he
want to because it leaves him with no glory.
"Ink" is a beggarly element compared to the Holy Spirit of God, even
when it is a record of what God has said.
Think of the "ink" as a journey, but when you arrive at the
destination—where the Lord is—the "ink" is no longer required. Or, think
of an autobiography of a person compared to the actual presence of the
person. The autobiography is only a beggarly element compared to the
actual person. When you worship the autobiography (bible), you have made
it an idol, and the reason you make it an idol is because you want to
indulge the sin nature!
As you learned in Solomon, wisdom is not the answer. Like Solomon,
Sinner Christian ChristRose ultimately wants the wisdom for himself in
his heart—not that he can see that! Remember, the Lord Jesus Christ is
all about "others." Whereas the spirit of this world always has a
foundation in self (the sinner state). That is why Solomon failed. The
Lord would have preferred Solomon to ask for a heart for Him like his
father David.
But why? Wisdom is not the answer, and it would have been far better for
Israel and for Solomon in the long run NOT to have chosen wisdom but the
Lord Himself. But look at the Lord. In regard to His preference, is the
Lord thinking of Himself being worshiped or is He thinking of Israel and
Solomon?
Exactly! Only the Holy Spirit Himself can show you His motives and who
He really is! Gloriously good. That is why Job was crushed, and he would
counsel God with his whys? Nah, that was an abomination! I am reminded
of Jonah here also; he too questioned God; hopefully he came to the same
point of realisation as Job. Certainly Peter did when he wept bitterly.
Peter wept because he saw for the first time that he was self-deceived.
When you see that, you see that everything about your life—absolutely
everything—is an utter lie, and you are greatly ashamed. It is like the
floorboards giving way beneath you. Isaiah—a man of unclean lips.
Luke 5:8 When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying,
Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord.
Now you know why the gentle Lord, who knows absolutely all, knows
Peter's heart, and why He asked Peter those 3 times, "Do you love Me?"
Peter had to ***know*** that he was forgiven, and forgiveness always
gives rise to hope, and hope always gives rise to resurrection in the Lord.
Post by Christ Rosebut to legalistic
efforts at justification, and the kind of worldly philosophies and
“But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God,
how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary
principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? You
observe days and months and seasons and years!” (Galatians 4:9–10, ESV)
That's talking about a legalistic observance of Old Testament ceremonial
laws, as if it would make one righteous, not to people who are reading
and receiving guidance from a Spirit -enabled understanding of the
Scriptures.
“If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as
if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do
not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all
perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings?
These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made
religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no
value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.” (Colossians 2:20–23, ESV)
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The word of God is never referred to as a "weak" or "beggarly" element
in the Bible. It is the power of God unto salvation (Romans 1:16; 10:17).
It is a horrific thought and a stone of stumbling for them to imagine
such a thing—not having the written word, the ink—because true faith
in God is in His omnipotence and omnipresence.
You dumb, blind tool of Satan. He's been trying to separate people from
God's word since the beginning.
My motive since the beginning has been to try and separate people from
their self-deceit and it is a noble godly anointing because it is of the
Lord, it is of His Nature.
Post by Christ RoseThat is for those who are born again, chosen, but the called have a
journey to make.
Nowhere does God call anyone to take a journey away from His word,
mouthpiece for Satan.
I was playing this guy at chess one time, and I said, "I wonder what
God is saying in this chess game?" And the guy looked at me funny and
said, "God has got nothing to do with chess!"
:-).
Is God a book on the coffee table, or is He everywhere and in everything?
False dichotomy. It isn't either walk away from the written word of god,
or else you're worshiping ink and paper rather than God. God
communicates the deep things about Himself to the spirit of believers,
“God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and
truth.”” (John 4:24, NKJV)
"truth". What is truth?
“Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.” (John 17:17, NKJV)
All the more that the Lord speak to him, then. :-).
"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible." Well, then, who is going
to speak?
Post by Christ Rose"These things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit
searches everything, even the depths of God. For who knows a person's
thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no
one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. Now we
have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from
God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. And we
impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the
Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual." (1
Corinthians 2:10-13, ESV)
Notice, "And we impart this in WORDS not taught by human wisdom but
taught by the Spirit...".
Thus, the doctrine taught by the apostles is the "words" God uses to
impart an understanding of the deep things of God to the minds of
believers.
No, it is the Lord Himself through His Holy Spirit in a person's daily
life. Through the Spirit, the Spirit of God, taught by the Spirit, "no
one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God; you see,
it is right there in front of his nose, but he does not see.
"Is God a book on the coffee table, or is He everywhere and in everything?"
Do you see how he diverted away from the question into his own private
Idaho? Obviously, the answer is the latter, but that does not suit his
religious proclivity and agenda.
He can sit next to his bible for an eternity if he likes.
Post by Christ Rose:-).
One stroke after another, line upon line, precept upon precept to the
Lord's renewing of your mind through His Holy Spirit. All the glory is His.
Line upon line and precept upon precept is a reference to the written
word of God, as shown above.
No, John, it is a reference to the Holy Spirit and the way He moves.
See how earthly and fleshly he is in his understanding?
Well, he hardened his heart, so that is what he gets.
Learn the lesson: don't harden your heart!
Even if you get to the truth in the end, like Solomon (Ecc 12:13),
Solomon still only looked at God from a wisdom point of view; that is
sinner Christianity to a tee!
The law was fulfilled; sin isn't even on the table—"follow Me." What
matters now? What has always mattered—how you treat the Lord! Everyone
has till the day they die (for the Lord forgives 77 x 7, lots), but you
don't want to leave this world mistreating Him (an abomination), for
that has a reward; it is the Lord that brings the Holy Spirit (Matt
12:32). Don't mistreat the Lord; do what He asks of you.
Like with Israel and Solomon, He has plans.
Jeremiah 29:11
"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to
prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."
Post by Christ RoseIt is a good feeling, isn't it! The first time in your life when you
can feel your foot is on solid ground; that is because it is! :-).
That is how Joshua felt when they stepped out of the Jordan River and
into the promised land, about to conquer all before him, if he obeyed
the will of the Lord.
“This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall
meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according
to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way
prosperous, and then you will have good success.” (Joshua 1:8, ESV)
The dumb liar, mouthpiece for Satan alludes to example after example of
Bible teaching which refutes his own lies, but he's too blinded by Satan
and his own unregenerate ego to get it.
Do you know why ChristRose is still in the Old Testament, because he
still is!
You see how the death on the cross and the resurrection of all those in
Christ Jesus means nothing to them (2 Cor 5:17)? That is because they
don't know Him.
There is no Joshua law now (death, Romans 7); there is no "your way" in
accordance with it. It is the loss of your life and the embracement of
His will, His way now, through the Holy Spirit.
Post by Christ RoseAnd so...
Rom_8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the
sons of God.
And those who are led by the Spirit are also walking in line with God's
"Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth." (ESV)
"Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And
he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and
manifest myself to him." (ESV)
Love keeps Christ's commandments, which are revealed to us in Scripture.
"But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become
obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were
committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of
righteousness." (Romans 6:17-18, ESV)
Do you see how blind this fellow is? Quoting just the right scriptures
but denying the power of them because he exchanges the truth for a lie
(total contradiction in his deeds); in effect exchanging the Lord Jesus
Christ for the world!
Post by Christ Rose"from the heart", but also according "to the standard of teaching to
which you were committed".
Romans 8 notes that walking according to the Spirit, is also consistent
"in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled
in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the
Spirit." (Romans 8:4, ESV)
As long as you follow the Lord, the truth, your religion, your bible
doctrines, your bible, and your sinner Christianity upbringing will
get further and further away in the rear view mirror.
You're describing your own situation. You're the one who walked away
from the Bible, and who now operates on your own manufactured doctrines
of self-deceit.
And look in Romans 8:14; you have a promise from the Lord.
The rich young ruler would not have been transformed the moment he
decided to go with the Lord if he had decided to go with the Lord, but
the Lord would have brought him safely into the Kingdom if he
continued in the faith, like with the disciples (with the exception of
Judas who chose not to continue).
Trust and obey for that is the way.
Jesus used the word of God to show the rich young ruler that he was a
sinner, so that He would understand he has not been keeping the word of
God perfectly as he claimed. The people who can't be saved are those who
deny they are sinners. They are also those who do not have the truth or
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us
our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we
have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.” (1 John
1:8–10, NKJV)
And on and on and on and on and on with the sinner Christian bible
theology, the revolving door compromising, and treating the Lord like shit!
1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in
darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
The reason they walk in darkness and lie and do not the truth is because
they don't have a relationship with Him.
Did you note with the rich young ruler that the law (his evil ways) had
nothing to do with the Lord's offer? Do you see it is a call to
relationship from the Lord?
The Lord is saying to the rich young ruler, leave all that behind, leave
it all, including the law, your theology, the tower of Babel you have
built on the sand of your sin, and come with Me.
So simple, isn't it!
Post by Christ RoseIn the Name of Jesus
You worship a false Jesus of your own imagination, not the one we know
of from the Bible. The Jesus of the Bible delighted in God's word, and
The Lord Jesus is God, not a bible!
And here we are back the same ol' thing...
"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."
And ChristRose needs to give up his vanity and disgusting 'striving to
be righteous' sinner Christian state ...
"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
"God has to be quiet now, we have our bible." And that is what
ChristRose in his wilful sinner state has done, quenched the Holy Spirit!
In the Name of Jesus
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God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30 I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.
Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.
"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."
"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."
"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."
"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."
"Compromise will condemn you."
"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."
"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."
"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"
"The way of truth is the testimony of life."
"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."
"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."
"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."
"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."
"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."
"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."
"Priority is everything."
"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."
"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."
"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."
"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."
"Wait, rest, be still, and know."
"No man can wash his own hands!!!"
"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."
"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."
"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."
"Man is not the centre of being."
"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."
"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."
"Man has no greater idol than his own will."
"Where is God hiding? He isn't."
"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."
"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."
"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."
"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."
"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."
"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."
"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."
"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."
"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.
"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."
"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."
"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
What a gift in a fallen world!"
"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"
"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"
"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."
"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."
"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."
"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."
"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."
"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."
"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."
"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."
"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"
"There is no such thing as random!"
"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."
"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."
"You can't learn God, God has to reveal Himself to you."
"No sinner is sinless in any way."
"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."
"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."
"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."
"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."
"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."
"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."
"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."
"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."
"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."
"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."
"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."
"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible." Well, then, who is going
to speak?