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God versus "a god" NWT lies based on their JW theology.
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Robert
2024-10-10 18:03:26 UTC
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However, this very assertion militates against the translation in John 1:1c
of "a god". Indeed, the qualitative idea demands the translation, "the Word
was God (in nature)" precisely as Harner suggests.

The big problem with the NWT translation is its inconsistence about this very
matter - in other places where we have anarthrous "theos", the same
translators do NOT use "a god" such as:

John 1:6 (NWT) - There came a man who was sent as a representative of God;
his name was John [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of article]

John 1:12 (NWT) - However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to
become God’s children [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of
article]

John 1:13 (NWT) - And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will
or from man’s will, but from God [note - no "a" before "God" despite the
lack of article]

I could quote dozens more. The point is clear - the NWT translators translate
according to a pre-existing theology rather than according to the established
rules of grammar

Note: the above is taken from notes found on the WEB.
This re-enforces their hypocrisy.
Christ Rose
2024-10-10 19:27:03 UTC
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However, this very assertion militates against the translation in John 1:1c
of "a god". Indeed, the qualitative idea demands the translation, "the Word
was God (in nature)" precisely as Harner suggests.
The big problem with the NWT translation is its inconsistence about this very
matter - in other places where we have anarthrous "theos", the same
John 1:6 (NWT) - There came a man who was sent as a representative of God;
his name was John [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of article]
John 1:12 (NWT) - However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to
become God’s children [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of
article]
John 1:13 (NWT) - And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will
or from man’s will, but from God [note - no "a" before "God" despite the
lack of article]
I could quote dozens more. The point is clear - the NWT translators translate
according to a pre-existing theology rather than according to the established
rules of grammar
Note: the above is taken from notes found on the WEB.
This re-enforces their hypocrisy.
Note: You're too lazy to give proper
attribution:

"greek - How to understand the rendering
of God in John 1 without the preceding
article ho? - Biblical Hermeneutics
Stack Exchange". Hermeneutics, 14 Oct.
2022,
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/79242/how-to-understand-the-rendering-of-god-in-john-1-without-the-preceding-article-h.
Accessed 10 October. 2024.


--
Have you heard the good news Christ died
for our sins (†), and God raised Him
from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows
we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the
dead shows Christ's death satisfied
God's righteous demands against our sin
(Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
God can now remain just, while forgiving
you of your sins, and saving you from
eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and
resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you:
"For "everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."" (Romans
10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation
Robert
2024-10-10 20:06:01 UTC
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Thu, 10 Oct 2024 11:03:26 -0700,
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Post by Robert
However, this very assertion militates against the translation in John 1:1c
of "a god". Indeed, the qualitative idea demands the translation, "the Word
was God (in nature)" precisely as Harner suggests.
The big problem with the NWT translation is its inconsistence about this very
matter - in other places where we have anarthrous "theos", the same
John 1:6 (NWT) - There came a man who was sent as a representative of God;
his name was John [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of article]
John 1:12 (NWT) - However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to
become God’s children [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of
article]
John 1:13 (NWT) - And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will
or from man’s will, but from God [note - no "a" before "God" despite the
lack of article]
I could quote dozens more. The point is clear - the NWT translators translate
according to a pre-existing theology rather than according to the established
rules of grammar
Note: the above is taken from notes found on the WEB.
This re-enforces their hypocrisy.
Note: You're too lazy to give proper
Made you look, LOL
In the Name of Jesus
2024-10-10 21:10:57 UTC
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Thu, 10 Oct 2024 11:03:26 -0700,
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Post by Robert
However, this very assertion militates against the translation in John 1:1c
of "a god". Indeed, the qualitative idea demands the translation, "the Word
was God (in nature)" precisely as Harner suggests.
The big problem with the NWT translation is its inconsistence about this very
matter - in other places where we have anarthrous "theos", the same
John 1:6 (NWT) - There came a man who was sent as a representative of God;
his name was John [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of article]
John 1:12 (NWT) - However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to
become God’s children [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of
article]
John 1:13 (NWT) - And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will
or from man’s will, but from God [note - no "a" before "God" despite the
lack of article]
I could quote dozens more. The point is clear - the NWT translators translate
according to a pre-existing theology rather than according to the established
rules of grammar
Note: the above is taken from notes found on the WEB.
This re-enforces their hypocrisy.
Note: You're too lazy to give proper
Shut up you monumental dickhead of sinless perfection!

See how blind he is, and what an absolute Pharisee shitty spirit! And
these sinner christians claim they are in Christ Jesus; heaven help us
if they were!!






In the Name of Jesus
Post by Christ Rose
"greek - How to understand the rendering
of God in John 1 without the preceding
article ho? - Biblical Hermeneutics
Stack Exchange". Hermeneutics, 14 Oct.
2022,
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/79242/how-to-understand-the-rendering-of-god-in-john-1-without-the-preceding-article-h.
Accessed 10 October. 2024.
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died
for our sins (†), and God raised Him
from the dead?
That Christ died for our sins shows
we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the
dead shows Christ's death satisfied
God's righteous demands against our sin
(Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2). This means
God can now remain just, while forgiving
you of your sins, and saving you from
eternal damnation.
On the basis of Christ's death and
resurrection for our sins, call on
"For "everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved."" (Romans
10:13, ESV)
https://christrose.news/salvation
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible." Well, then, who is going
to speak?
Christ Rose
2024-10-10 22:30:48 UTC
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Shut up you monumental dickhead of sinless perfection!
See how blind he is, and what an absolute Pharisee shitty spirit! And
these sinner christians claim they are in Christ Jesus; heaven help us
if they were!!
I don't claim to walk around in sinless perfection. You do. Yet your
speech is worse than mine. How are you not operating by a
double-standard of hypocrisy?
--
Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God
raised Him from the dead?

That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death
penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death
satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John
2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your
sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.

On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on
the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name
of the Lord will be saved.'" (Romans 10:13, ESV)

https://christrose.news/salvation
In the Name of Jesus
2024-10-11 00:35:41 UTC
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Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:10:57 +1100
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Post by In the Name of Jesus
Shut up you monumental dickhead of sinless perfection!
See how blind he is, and what an absolute Pharisee shitty spirit! And
these sinner christians claim they are in Christ Jesus; heaven help us
if they were!!
I don't claim to walk around in sinless perfection. You do. Yet your
speech is worse than mine. How are you not operating by a double-
standard of hypocrisy?
Snip, hide, divert, but the Lord sees it all, CringyRose.
Post by Christ Rose
Note: You're too lazy to give proper
Ye are the perfect judge, Sewerage Sinner. Yes, ye are sinner sinless
perfection!






In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible." Well, then, who is going
to speak?
In the Name of Jesus
2024-10-10 20:22:10 UTC
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Post by Robert
However, this very assertion militates against the translation in John 1:1c
of "a god". Indeed, the qualitative idea demands the translation, "the Word
was God (in nature)" precisely as Harner suggests.
The big problem with the NWT translation is its inconsistence about this very
matter - in other places where we have anarthrous "theos", the same
John 1:6 (NWT) - There came a man who was sent as a representative of God;
his name was John [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of article]
John 1:12 (NWT) - However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to
become God’s children [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of
article]
John 1:13 (NWT) - And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will
or from man’s will, but from God [note - no "a" before "God" despite the
lack of article]
I could quote dozens more. The point is clear - the NWT translators translate
according to a pre-existing theology rather than according to the established
rules of grammar
Note: the above is taken from notes found on the WEB.
This re-enforces their hypocrisy.
"A god" is totally absurd, that is for sure.

However, this is something you might want to mull over.

Psalms 82:6  I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of
the most High.

God is God, but so is His image, His presence, in His sons.







In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that a sinner could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible." Well, then, who is going
to speak?
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On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 11:03:26 -0700, Robert <***@no.way> wrote:

Morning Robert,

Hope you weren't in the paths of this hurricane stuff. (:>)
Post by Robert
However, this very assertion militates against the translation in John 1:1c
of "a god". Indeed, the qualitative idea demands the translation, "the Word
was God (in nature)" precisely as Harner suggests.
The big problem with the NWT translation is its inconsistence about this very
matter - in other places where we have anarthrous "theos", the same
John 1:6 (NWT) - There came a man who was sent as a representative of God;
his name was John [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of article]
John 1:12 (NWT) - However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to
become God’s children [note - no "a" before "God" despite the lack of
article]
John 1:13 (NWT) - And they were born, not from blood or from a fleshly will
or from man’s will, but from God [note - no "a" before "God" despite the
lack of article]
I could quote dozens more. The point is clear - the NWT translators translate
according to a pre-existing theology rather than according to the established
rules of grammar
Note: the above is taken from notes found on the WEB.
This re-enforces their hypocrisy.
The "hypocrisy" is from the web pages you visited. According to you,
they believe every time the word "theos" (God) is found in the Bible,
the JW's must put an "a" before it. That is not only ridiculous, but
entering the house of absurdness.

You are missing the ship. (military- "boat") It is a GREEK RULE that
JW's use, but didn't create. Notice:

He is Donald Trump
He is the Donald Trump

Does the addition of the definite article "the" change the meaning a
little? It is a similar thing with the Greek grammar found at John
1:1.

In Greek, that passage contains the word "god" [theos] twice.

The first one has the definite article "the" before it, the second one
does not. Thus there is a difference between the meaning of the first
"god" [theos] and the second "god" [theos]. And a good translation
should show that difference.

According to the Bible translator William Barclay, he says that when a
Greek noun doesn't have the definite article in front of it, it
becomes a description (like an adjective) rather than an identity
(like a noun). And the second "theos" [god] has no definite article
preceding it.

SPECIAL NOTE:

The Catholic Bible, New American Bible (NAB), says in a footnote on
John 1:1,

"Was God:lack of a definite article with "God" in Greek signifies
predication rather than identification".

And the apostle John near the end of his book at John 20:31, mentions
the final concluding comment about Jesus' position as to God. He said
that Jesus was the "Son of God", not 'God the Son', nor 'God'.

JW's didn't make this stuff up. Thus to ACCURATELY get across what the
writer of Joh 1:1 was saying, is to show that the "Word" [Jesus] was
with Almighty God in the beginning, and that the "Word" was also like
a god, or godlike.

That is how the Greek manuscripts read, and that is how an honest and
accurate translator, should translate it for his readers. (prejudice
and bias has no merit in Bible translating)

**Also do your own research, The indefinite article "a" is not in the
Bible Greek language. Thus modern translators many times add it to a
Scripture to make it more readable in English.

If nothing else, at least you can see the reason WHY the JW's
translated like they did. Despite what many other Bible translations
did (safety in numbers?), the JW's just wanted to follow the Greek
grammar rules, which doesn't show Jesus is God.

Sincerely James.
World Peace Finally!
It will happen. But how?
Go to jw.org for
Bible answers.
10/12/2024
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