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In the Name of Jesus
2024-12-10 21:27:01 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.

How is it a lie?

A lie is the promise of something being true.

Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?

How is it possible?

All things are possible with God, but with you and your vain,
self-serving striving, nothing is possible, religious or otherwise.

Ecc 1:14  I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and,
behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.

Chasing the wind, all of what you see and what you do in this world is
chasing the wind. It is obvious, isn't it? Look at the pyramids—all that
effort, crumbling.

And for you religious types, God does not need your (or mine) help.

But even with wisdom under the sun, it is just as futile as stupidity.
There is only one place you'll find fulfilment and satisfaction, and
that is in the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, not in a bible, or a religion,
or in people, or in worldly or religious best practices.

If you want to escape the vanity, it is to be with Him.

The poor rich young ruler.



In the Name of Jesus
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."
Gronk
2024-12-11 05:48:27 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
In the Name of Jesus
2024-12-11 06:26:56 UTC
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Post by In the Name of Jesus
Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).




In the beginning, God, God eternal
--
God is God in all His Being. All the glory is His, for He is all glory.

Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord. John
10:30  I and Father are one. If you can't see that the Lord Jesus is the
everlasting Father you are not born again and can't see the Kingdom of God.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalms 53:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt
are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Proverbs 12:15 The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything, He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance (voice, the Person) of
God. When you find Him you have found the author."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul, and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do; it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free, and free indeed with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

"The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence or proof is to be found."

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."
Gronk
2024-12-17 05:51:30 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
Mitchell Holman
2024-12-18 02:31:02 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.


"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
Siri Cruise
2024-12-18 02:44:15 UTC
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The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
What? It clearly states your subject to whims you can expect to
control or understand (Job). You shout your anger into the night
(Ecclesiastes). Or believe those whims are benevolent (lilies of
the field).

Your choices are clear. So choose.
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Dawn Flood
2024-12-18 08:35:48 UTC
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    The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
What? It clearly states your subject to whims you can expect to control
or understand (Job). You shout your anger into the night (Ecclesiastes).
Or believe those whims are benevolent (lilies of the field).
Your choices are clear. So choose.
Choose what? What are my choices here??

Dawn
Baxter
2024-12-18 02:53:03 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment
and satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't
even be a thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
That's what the Church has been saying for near 2,000 years. For a long
time, only priests were allowed to read it, then the printing press came
along.
Post by Mitchell Holman
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
Chris Ahlstrom
2024-12-18 13:10:46 UTC
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Post by Gronk
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
And good old Isaac wrote two thick books about the Bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible
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but that he dances at all.
Siri Cruise
2024-12-18 14:30:32 UTC
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Post by Gronk
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win!:-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
And good old Isaac wrote two thick books about the Bible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible
-- The wonderful thing about a dancing bear is not how well he
dances, but that he dances at all.

Tanzmusik


Kristallo
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Chris Ahlstrom
2024-12-18 16:00:22 UTC
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Post by Gronk
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win!:-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
And good old Isaac wrote two thick books about the Bible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimov%27s_Guide_to_the_Bible
-- The wonderful thing about a dancing bear is not how well he
dances, but that he dances at all.
http://youtu.be/uPWoHRXrAJM
Tanzmusik
http://youtu.be/ZX6R8w-IALk
Kristallo
I like a fair number of Kraftwerk tunes. I had an LP (vinyl) of "Trans Europe
Express", and the songs were so repetitive they made visible patterns in the
groove.

Robot imitator:

Robot Vall | Валерий Робот Вэлл Черновский



Robot Vall | Kraftwerk promo

Another one, longer:


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jojo
2024-12-18 15:58:29 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
i havent really read even 1 full page of the bible yet. but it
seems self evident to me that the anthropomorphic notion of an
omniscient being with the need to dispose human morality seems
absurd.

except, except in that it helped organize society and attempted
to tamed the worst instincts in people, but really backfired. but
the organization part worked.
The Doctor
2024-12-18 16:48:38 UTC
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Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
i havent really read even 1 full page of the bible yet. but it
seems self evident to me that the anthropomorphic notion of an
omniscient being with the need to dispose human morality seems
absurd.
except, except in that it helped organize society and attempted
to tamed the worst instincts in people, but really backfired. but
the organization part worked.
Isaac is correct!
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Attila
2024-12-20 14:55:13 UTC
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Post by The Doctor
Post by jojo
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Gronk
Post by In the Name of Jesus
Well, it is—under the sun.
How is it a lie?
A lie is the promise of something being true.
Everything in this world is a lie, merely a promise of fulfilment and
satisfaction. However, fulfilment and satisfaction wouldn't even be a
thing if it were not possible. Right?
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived.�
― Isaac Asimov
And he is still trying to win! :-).
It means people are still not properly reading this
bible :-}
The Bible needs to be properly read.
"Properly read, the Bible is the most
potent force for atheism ever devised"
- Isaac Asimov -
i havent really read even 1 full page of the bible yet. but it
seems self evident to me that the anthropomorphic notion of an
omniscient being with the need to dispose human morality seems
absurd.
except, except in that it helped organize society and attempted
to tamed the worst instincts in people, but really backfired. but
the organization part worked.
Isaac is correct!
He usually was.
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Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

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Deport them all.

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and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
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