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All the organised religions are false.
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Michael Christ
2017-09-24 00:02:14 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.

Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.

Does that ring a bell??

We have churches, we have history, we have power, we have authority,
they declare, just like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time. And the
Pharisees in Jesus' time knew a hell of a lot more about God than these
new age charlatans do!

The Pharisees would do something like debate the righteousness of
lighting a fire on the Sabbath in order to be inline with God's will,
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.

God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.





Michael Christ
Patrick
2017-09-24 00:37:18 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am.
We know that you are sorry.
And everyone knows that your strange religious beliefs do not
correspond with any organized religion. But, some of us WANT to
belong to an organized religion. That way we can have great
discussions about what scripture means when heretics like you try to
give us a BS definition or translation, or interpretation.
There have been hundreds of thousands of religious people before you
that have contemplated the meaning of life long before you were born.

Why do you feel you are smarter than all of them?

Why do you deny that Christ is our savior?

Why do you judge our worship process is inferior to yours?

In Exodus chapter 6 and following,... God “organized” a religion for
the nation of Israel. The Ten Commandments, the laws regarding the
tabernacle, and the sacrificial system were all instituted by God and
were to be followed by the Israelites. Further study of the New
Testament clarifies that the intent of this religion was to point to
the need for a Savior-Messiah (Galatians 3; Romans 7). However, many
have misunderstood this and have worshipped the rules and rituals
rather than God.

In many cases, the end result of organized religion is a distraction
from the intent of God. However, the Bible does speak of organized
believers who are part of His plan. God calls these groups of
organized believers “churches.” The descriptions from the book of Acts
and the Epistles indicate that the church is to be organized and
interdependent. The organization leads to protection, productivity,
and outreach (Acts 2:41-47). In the case of the church, it could
better be called an “organized relationship.”

Religion is man’s attempt to have communion with God. The Christian
faith is a relationship with God because of what He has done for us
through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

I think I would dislike an unorganized religion. Walking into our
Charismatic church, you never knew what might be going on. There might
be an orderly church service, or a two-hour praise and worship
session. There could be crying and praying at the altar, or a quick
service before an even quicker exit.

I would hate to be a Baptist.
Talk about disorganized. You would have to visit a half dozen
churches to find out what they actually believe. Some say they hate
homo's. Some hate papists (Catholics). Some believe in full
immersion. Some don't believe in Baptism until you are in your 20's.
Some hate war veterans. Some can't play cards, dance, etc. Then
there are the snake handlers.

It’s common to hear those who are nominally Christian say they hate
organized religion. But it’s important to understand that Jesus did
not oppose organized religion. He was a practicing Jew, and followed
Judaic customs. He preached in the synagogue and read from the
scriptures.

Jesus founded a religion. This was not an accident, or a
misunderstanding by His followers. He instituted a new covenant
through the breaking of bread with His disciples. So why is organized
religion a good thing? Why can’t we worship God however we choose?
Can’t I be “spiritual, not religious?” Maybe.... Maybe not....

In times of controversy over correct doctrine, the Church met in
council to ensure the purity of the Christian faith. At these councils
the Church has clarified the true faith and condemned heresies
contrary to the teachings of Christ. In a world where every street
corner has someone preaching their own version of Christianity, The
Holy Orthodox Church has preserved the faith of the Apostles.

The Apostles took great care to pass down the teachings of Jesus to
their successors, insuring an accurate transmission of His message. In
both written and oral tradition, great care has gone into the
preservation the Gospel.

For over 300 years, the Church worshiped without a Bible as we know it
today. The canon of scripture came through the wisdom of the Church.
The Church fathers preserved the writings agreed to be inspired by the
Holy Spirit. The Holy Bible did not spring into existence on its own.
It was compiled by the Church through the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

“I can worship God anywhere.” We certainly should pray and seek God at
all times. But there are times when we should worship in a more
orderly fashion. Having a priest guide us through our worship directs
our minds and hearts. Receiving the Holy Eucharist is the result of
preparation and organization. Singing hymns with a well-rehearsed
choir guides our prayers through song. It is through the orderly
practice of the Liturgy that we gain the wisdom and training to truly
worship God in spirit and in truth.

Catholic Mass is the same all over the world. It does not change from
place to place. I have attended Mass in dozens of different
countries. And in hundreds of places - from real churches to tents,
to theaters, to underground garages, tops of aircraft carriers, etc.

Plus, do you recall when Jesus said that whenever two or more gather
in His name, He will be there.....
duke
2017-09-24 12:02:50 UTC
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Religion is man’s attempt to have communion with God. The Christian
faith is a relationship with God because of what He has done for us
through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
I would hate to be a Baptist.
Talk about disorganized. You would have to visit a half dozen
churches to find out what they actually believe. Some say they hate
homo's. Some hate papists (Catholics). Some believe in full
immersion. Some don't believe in Baptism until you are in your 20's.
Some hate war veterans. Some can't play cards, dance, etc. Then
there are the snake handlers.
I think mikey is a snake handler.

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
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unknown
2017-09-24 01:03:08 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>

The church was "organized" as reflected in the faith and practice of the
NT.

The church is the body of Christ within which the christian religion is
lived.
Post by Michael Christ
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
Hmm, yes, it says you have just done that of which you accuse others,
substituting "me" with "us" above.
Post by Michael Christ
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.
And there you give that lone ranger church/organized religion of one an
authority reserved for God alone, to know the spiritual status of others.
Post by Michael Christ
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
That is a false dichotomy, faith and sin are not the same thing. As the
very familiar to you now 1 John teaches very clearly, all sin and by faith
can confess their sin to be reconciled with God.

In a lone ranger > church/ organized religion of one such as the 1 John can
be by self given authority ignored/redefined of course.
Robert
2017-09-24 02:31:58 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
PKB?

Yes, you have no prescribed religion which you openly follow, you grab
from the RCC, the GO, and every Web site that meets your fancy.
Michael Christ
2017-09-24 02:58:11 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
PKB?
Yes, you have no prescribed religion which you openly follow, you grab
from the RCC, the GO, and every Web site that meets your fancy.
That is what an 'organised' constantly sins person does :-), any port in
a storm. Is that a lover of God??

I've gotta get myself **organised** by accepting that sinning constantly
is the righteous way and there is nothing God can do to change that. :-).

Servant just has no idea! It can never be said that I haven't tried to
reason with her.





Michael Christ
Robert
2017-09-24 06:06:59 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
PKB?
Yes, you have no prescribed religion which you openly follow, you grab
from the RCC, the GO, and every Web site that meets your fancy.
That is what an 'organised' constantly sins person does :-), any port in
a storm. Is that a lover of God??
I've gotta get myself **organised** by accepting that sinning constantly
is the righteous way and there is nothing God can do to change that. :-).
Servant just has no idea! It can never be said that I haven't tried to
reason with her.
I've learned to end my part in a thread with her at the third circle.
duke
2017-09-24 12:22:58 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
PKB?
Yes, you have no prescribed religion which you openly follow, you grab
from the RCC, the GO, and every Web site that meets your fancy.
That is what an 'organised' constantly sins person does :-), any port in
a storm. Is that a lover of God??
I've gotta get myself **organised** by accepting that sinning constantly
is the righteous way and there is nothing God can do to change that. :-).
Servant just has no idea! It can never be said that I haven't tried to
reason with her.
I've learned to end my part in a thread with her at the third circle.
Oh, you always run away. You have unsustainable beliefs contrary to the
teachings of Jesus and you don't like it when nobody believes you. So what do
you do - you run.

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****
Robert
2017-09-24 18:47:34 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
PKB?
Yes, you have no prescribed religion which you openly follow, you grab
from the RCC, the GO, and every Web site that meets your fancy.
That is what an 'organised' constantly sins person does :-), any port in
a storm. Is that a lover of God??
I've gotta get myself **organised** by accepting that sinning constantly
is the righteous way and there is nothing God can do to change that. :-).
Servant just has no idea! It can never be said that I haven't tried to
reason with her.
I've learned to end my part in a thread with her at the third circle.
Oh, you always run away. You have unsustainable beliefs contrary to the
teachings of Jesus and you don't like it when nobody believes you. So what do
you do - you run.
the dukester, American-American
I am still here, using the same scripture as I always have.
duke
2017-09-25 21:55:17 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
PKB?
Yes, you have no prescribed religion which you openly follow, you grab
from the RCC, the GO, and every Web site that meets your fancy.
That is what an 'organised' constantly sins person does :-), any port in
a storm. Is that a lover of God??
I've gotta get myself **organised** by accepting that sinning constantly
is the righteous way and there is nothing God can do to change that. :-).
Servant just has no idea! It can never be said that I haven't tried to
reason with her.
I've learned to end my part in a thread with her at the third circle.
Oh, you always run away. You have unsustainable beliefs contrary to the
teachings of Jesus and you don't like it when nobody believes you. So what do
you do - you run.
I am still here, using the same scripture as I always have.
But you quickly run when others disagree with you. Scripture is always
scripture, but what one chooses to believe it says is another issue.

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****
Michael Christ
2017-09-24 02:50:34 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
The church was "organized" as reflected in the faith and practice of the
NT.
The church is the body of Christ within which the christian religion is
lived.
Post by Michael Christ
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
Hmm, yes, it says you have just done that of which you accuse others,
substituting "me" with "us" above.
Post by Michael Christ
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.
And there you give that lone ranger church/organized religion of one an
authority reserved for God alone, to know the spiritual status of others.
Post by Michael Christ
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
That is a false dichotomy,
faith and sin are not the same thing.
Indeed they are not and that is the point.

Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.

Simple truth.
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As the
very familiar to you now 1 John teaches very clearly, all sin and by faith
can confess their sin to be reconciled with God.
In a lone ranger > church/ organized religion of one such as the 1 John can
be by self given authority ignored/redefined of course.
You can make the scripture mean this nonsense if you like...'So by
sinning constantly, we make Him the truth, and His word is in us??

Crazy sinner thinking!

It has been dealt with many times now, and the last time reposted for
your convenience...

10/8/17
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'Do Christians sin?'
https://www.gotquestions.org/do-Christians-sin.html
His answer is yes but noting that we are christians our response to sin
changes so we don't wish to continue to sin.
But if we do we have a way to reconcile ourselves with Christ.
The book of 1 John was written to Christians. The apostle says, "If we
claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in
us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will
forgive
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us
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our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:8-9).
It is clear from this passage that even those who have been born again
and
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redeemed by the blood of Jesus will still sin. Through thought,
attitude, or action, we will "grieve" (Ephesians 4:30) and
"quench"
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(1
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Thessalonians 5:19) the Holy Spirit at times. But this passage also
reassures us that God offers continual, ongoing grace whenever we
agree
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with Him about our sin and ask for His cleansing.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
Very good, please do explain the 1 John above. Keeping in mind he was
addressing christians, the grammer expresses a continuing state for them
and also indicates he includes himself as a christian in it.
We await a a no doubt brilliant display of exegesis.
I'm sure you will! :-). Now listen, you're a sinner, are you not? A
filthy dirty 'glass darkly' sinner, right?

And to make matters worse, one that doesn't want to see anything beyond
what his sinful mind thinks. Stubborn! So, people like you, a walk in
the park for me??? No!!! Its grace, Buddy.

Many, many times, 1 John has been explained, as well as - physical body
- Romans 7.

1 John is written to you, people who are supposed to be working out
their salvation. Okay??

Well work it out. Listen to what you are being told.

verse 10 does not say 'keep on sinning'. If it was meant to, it would
have said that. It says, '1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not
***sinned***, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

So by sinning constantly, we make Him the truth, and His word is in us??

Now look at Job.

Job 42:5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine
eye seeth thee.
Job 42:6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

No Job, you must continue to abhor yourself and repent for the rest of
your life in your continuing sin!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is that it??

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How much more power by virtue of the cross: a man in
Christ Jesus is victorious, more than a conqueror!

Is that the declaration of sinners who are not cleansed?? How can it be?!

The Lord Jesus Christ is able to cleanse you of all unrighteousness; He
is God.

God wants total confession, total repentance, total surrender, not token
gestures while you dance around in a sinful state.

Is this next verse okay for you, Mr. Constantly walking in adultery
(whoredom with the world before God)...

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness:

...work out your salvation with fear and trembling as a stinking rotten
filthy sinner, be chastened, before a holy God. Deal with it with God.

Then, pertaining to Verse 16 and leaving it behind, 'that'...

2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto
all good works.

Do not look to man's religion, traditions/beliefs of the religious
sinners, what is typical of humanism. They merely seek to pad their
coffins (fallen nature lives), look to God for the answers.

With God, all things are possible! Do you believe that?? Well damn
well walk in it!!





Michael Christ
Patrick
2017-09-24 09:45:27 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?

tell me more.
Robert
2017-09-24 18:56:11 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
In HIS name, not the name of some church.
Patrick
2017-09-24 20:29:28 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
In HIS name, not the name of some church.
OK.
So Jesus doesn't show up if 2 guys gather in a church to pray?
Robert
2017-09-24 23:30:01 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
In HIS name, not the name of some church.
OK.
So Jesus doesn't show up if 2 guys gather in a church to pray?
It depends on who they are, if they are not in Christ as believers IN
him, or they are not seeking to believe IN him then what is there to
hear?

The prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
Patrick
2017-09-25 12:01:44 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
In HIS name, not the name of some church.
OK.
So Jesus doesn't show up if 2 guys gather in a church to pray?
It depends on who they are, if they are not in Christ as believers IN
him, or they are not seeking to believe IN him then what is there to
hear?
The prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
Great Pharisee answer....
Michael Christ
2017-09-24 21:35:25 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
The answer to that is quite simple, you are not gathered in His name,
you are gathered in your own name.

The Pharisees would argue the same thing. 'We represent God', they
would say. Then God came along and the didn't know Him from a bar of
soap. He showed them they were gathered in their own name, and they did
not like it. So it is with the modern 'organised religions' of sinners.

After reading Servant's response, I realise just how loose 'organised'
is. It is 'organised' disorganisation, or if you prefer, fallen man
pragmatism.




Michael Christ





Michael Christ
Patrick
2017-09-24 23:24:55 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
The answer to that is quite simple, you are not gathered in His name,
you are gathered in your own name.
How dare you mock me and God?

The Mass as a community of believers gathered together
20‘For where two or three are gathered in my name, I am there among
them.’ (Mt 18:20)
The Mass is an opportunity for us to join together as a community of
believers and pray, worship, and celebrate together.
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The Pharisees would argue the same thing. 'We represent God', they
would say. '
Isn't that what you claim?
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After reading Servant's response, I realise just how loose 'organised'
is. It is 'organised' disorganisation, or if you prefer, fallen man
pragmatism.
How stupid.
Michael Christ
2017-09-24 23:34:42 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
The answer to that is quite simple, you are not gathered in His name,
you are gathered in your own name.
How dare you mock me and God?
Perhaps its not 'me and God', in that order?

Or, that it is??

I am only speaking the truth, Patrick.





Michael Christ
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The Mass as a community of believers gathered together
20‘For where two or three are gathered in my name, I am there among
them.’ (Mt 18:20)
The Mass is an opportunity for us to join together as a community of
believers and pray, worship, and celebrate together.
Post by Michael Christ
The Pharisees would argue the same thing. 'We represent God', they
would say. '
Isn't that what you claim?
Post by Michael Christ
After reading Servant's response, I realise just how loose 'organised'
is. It is 'organised' disorganisation, or if you prefer, fallen man
pragmatism.
How stupid.
Patrick
2017-09-25 12:03:34 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
The answer to that is quite simple, you are not gathered in His name,
you are gathered in your own name.
How dare you mock me and God?
Perhaps its not 'me and God', in that order?
Yes.
You have mocked me.....
And then you have mocked the God that I worship.

If you like, you may switch it around.
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Or, that it is??
I am only speaking the truth, Patrick.
How dare you mock me and God?
Michael Christ
2017-09-25 22:19:01 UTC
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Faith is not of sinners, or if you prefer, those who live in the
constancy of sin. Why? Because they serve what they are, and not the
Lord Jesus.
Simple truth.
Yet, Jesus says that whenever two or more gather in His name He will
be there. I wonder why that works?
Maybe Jesus is a LIAR?
tell me more.
The answer to that is quite simple, you are not gathered in His name,
you are gathered in your own name.
How dare you mock me and God?
Perhaps its not 'me and God', in that order?
Yes.
You have mocked me.....
And then you have mocked the God that I worship.
If you like, you may switch it around.
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Or, that it is??
I am only speaking the truth, Patrick.
How dare you mock me and God?
It is the truth that is uncomfortable to you, but you can erect whatever
edifice you like, Patrick. Your time is now.

However, you are not gathered in His name, you are gathered in the name
of man.

Mat_7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a
corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.





Michael Christ
Patrick
2017-09-25 22:46:13 UTC
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It is the truth that is uncomfortable to you, but you can erect whatever
edifice you like, Patrick. Your time is now.
However, you are not gathered in His name, you are gathered in the name
of man.
And you are a false prophet on a soapbox on Main and 5th, pissing into
the wind. You waste your time and effort here. You are a proven liar
and a Pharisee who claims he is the one and only.
Get behind me, Satan.
Michael Christ
2017-09-25 22:51:12 UTC
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It is the truth that is uncomfortable to you, but you can erect whatever
edifice you like, Patrick. Your time is now.
However, you are not gathered in His name, you are gathered in the name
of man.
And you are a false prophet on a soapbox on Main and 5th, pissing into
the wind. You waste your time and effort here. You are a proven liar
and a Pharisee who claims he is the one and only.
Get behind me, Satan.
It is hard for you to kick against the pricks, Patrick.

So it was for us all.






Michael Christ
Patrick
2017-09-26 11:32:19 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
It is the truth that is uncomfortable to you, but you can erect whatever
edifice you like, Patrick. Your time is now.
However, you are not gathered in His name, you are gathered in the name
of man.
And you are a false prophet on a soapbox on Main and 5th, pissing into
the wind. You waste your time and effort here. You are a proven liar
and a Pharisee who claims he is the one and only.
Get behind me, Satan.
It is hard for you to kick against the pricks, Patrick.
So it was for us all.
Who is "us"?
Besides you, robert, and Satan?
george
2017-09-24 10:49:10 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really
am. I spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
snip, thought you may like to know. The ID you are responding to is
good for exteme bouts of boredom. But as with most trolls, at days end
he has said nothing outside its post to stir the bucket. He changes
names faster that a baby changes diapers. Still, it can be used to
help you check your spelling.
--
"I form light and I create darkness; I make wholeness and I create
evil"
(Isa 45:7)
duke
2017-09-24 12:20:41 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
The church was "organized" as reflected in the faith and practice of the
NT.
Yep, Jesus clearly established his new Church on earth as a community of
believers in support of each other. He gathered large numbers of people for his
sermons on the mount. He established sacramental rituals which gather us
together, community rituals like the Holy Mass, Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage,
Holy Orders, Confession, Blessing of the Sick.

He made it clear that faith without deeds is dead faith:
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.
Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.

The only way mikey can make a case for his beliefs is if he lives in a tin shed
out in the middle of the outback with his dingo for a friend.

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
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Robert
2017-09-24 18:53:50 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
The church was "organized" as reflected in the faith and practice of the
NT.
Yep, Jesus clearly established his new Church on earth as a community of
believers in support of each other. He gathered large numbers of people for his
sermons on the mount. He established sacramental rituals which gather us
together, community rituals like the Holy Mass, Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage,
Holy Orders, Confession, Blessing of the Sick.
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.
All the above are works, not of Faith, sometimes out of Love for some
people, and for many people just a religious act, or a simple act of
human kindness.

These two below are works of Faith.
When have you ever done either one?
Post by duke
Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.
The only way mikey can make a case for his beliefs is if he lives in a tin shed
out in the middle of the outback with his dingo for a friend.
the dukester, American-American
duke
2017-09-25 21:27:08 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
The church was "organized" as reflected in the faith and practice of the
NT.
Yep, Jesus clearly established his new Church on earth as a community of
believers in support of each other. He gathered large numbers of people for his
sermons on the mount. He established sacramental rituals which gather us
together, community rituals like the Holy Mass, Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage,
Holy Orders, Confession, Blessing of the Sick.
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.
All the above are works, not of Faith, sometimes out of Love for some
people, and for many people just a religious act, or a simple act of
human kindness.
And God said that your faith is dead if you don't.
Post by Robert
These two below are works of Faith.
When have you ever done either one?
Post by duke
Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.
I cast the demons out of myself by going to Mass and in following the teachings
of Jesus. That's something you refuse to do.

Your complete and total failure to act on the teachings of Jesus is going to
bite you in the long run. You're not smarter than the Son of God.
Post by Robert
Post by duke
The only way mikey can make a case for his beliefs is if he lives in a tin shed
out in the middle of the outback with his dingo for a friend.
the dukester, American-American
the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****
Rod
2017-09-27 02:40:43 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
The church was "organized" as reflected in the faith and practice of the
NT.
Yep, Jesus clearly established his new Church on earth as a community of
believers in support of each other. He gathered large numbers of people for his
sermons on the mount. He established sacramental rituals which gather us
together, community rituals like the Holy Mass, Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage,
Holy Orders, Confession, Blessing of the Sick.
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.
All the above are works, not of Faith, sometimes out of Love for some
people, and for many people just a religious act, or a simple act of
human kindness.
And God said that your faith is dead if you don't.
Post by Robert
These two below are works of Faith.
When have you ever done either one?
Post by duke
Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.
I cast the demons out of myself by going to Mass
Then you are not a child of God if you have
had demons. Demons cannot take a child of
God unless allowed to or invited.

I have to wonder where you are getting them;
they are not exactly like lice, but much worse.
duke
2017-09-27 12:48:08 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
The church was "organized" as reflected in the faith and practice of the
NT.
Yep, Jesus clearly established his new Church on earth as a community of
believers in support of each other. He gathered large numbers of people for his
sermons on the mount. He established sacramental rituals which gather us
together, community rituals like the Holy Mass, Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage,
Holy Orders, Confession, Blessing of the Sick.
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.
All the above are works, not of Faith, sometimes out of Love for some
people, and for many people just a religious act, or a simple act of
human kindness.
And God said that your faith is dead if you don't.
Post by Robert
These two below are works of Faith.
When have you ever done either one?
Post by duke
Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.
I cast the demons out of myself by going to Mass
Then you are not a child of God if you have
had demons. Demons cannot take a child of
God unless allowed to or invited.
I have to wonder where you are getting them;
they are not exactly like lice, but much worse.
Scripture advises that Jesus alone never had demons. Any single act or thought
contrary to God's ways and short or long lasting means you have demons.
Repenting and changing your life to follow in the steps of Jesus Christ is God's
recommendation.

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
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Robert
2017-09-27 16:39:13 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am. I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Which we are to take means you are now a lone ranger church/
unorganized religion of one?>
The church was "organized" as reflected in the faith and practice of the
NT.
Yep, Jesus clearly established his new Church on earth as a community of
believers in support of each other. He gathered large numbers of people for his
sermons on the mount. He established sacramental rituals which gather us
together, community rituals like the Holy Mass, Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage,
Holy Orders, Confession, Blessing of the Sick.
Mat 25:31-46, James 2:26
Feed the hungry
Clothe the naked.
Give drink to the thirsty.
Visit the imprisoned.
All the above are works, not of Faith, sometimes out of Love for some
people, and for many people just a religious act, or a simple act of
human kindness.
And God said that your faith is dead if you don't.
Post by Robert
These two below are works of Faith.
When have you ever done either one?
Post by duke
Heal the sick.
Cast out demons.
I cast the demons out of myself by going to Mass
Then you are not a child of God if you have
had demons. Demons cannot take a child of
God unless allowed to or invited.
I have to wonder where you are getting them;
they are not exactly like lice, but much worse.
Scripture advises that Jesus alone never had demons. Any single act or thought
contrary to God's ways and short or long lasting means you have demons.
Repenting and changing your life to follow in the steps of Jesus Christ is God's
recommendation.
the dukester, American-American
That is destructive theology, and the rest of what you said is
obviously not true either. You go to confession constantly and by your
admission you are constantly possessed. You are never free from it
even as you confess there are sins you have forgotten and so you leave
just as plagued as when you went in the box.

Jesus came to see you free from sin and shame, that you might have
peace, and you cannot have peace as a possessed person.

You are inviting demons in my default with statements like that,
allowing them free reign in your life, the word of God teaches that if
we resist the devil he will FLEE from us.

I'd recommend that you put yourself under the blood of Christ.
duke
2017-09-28 11:09:20 UTC
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Post by duke
Scripture advises that Jesus alone never had demons. Any single act or thought
contrary to God's ways and short or long lasting means you have demons.
Repenting and changing your life to follow in the steps of Jesus Christ is God's
recommendation.
That is destructive theology, and the rest of what you said is
obviously not true either. You go to confession constantly
No, I don't. I constantly make the effort to set aside man's nature and follow
Jesus. Too bad you refuse to.
Post by Robert
and by your
admission you are constantly possessed. You are never free from it
even as you confess there are sins you have forgotten and so you leave
just as plagued as when you went in the box.
When you WANT to follow Jesus, it's very easy to live the good life that Jesus
specified. You're condemning yourself in your refusal of the Lord.
Post by Robert
Jesus came to see you free from sin and shame, that you might have
peace, and you cannot have peace as a possessed person.
You're pretty screwed up in your assessment. I have peace because I choose to
follow Jesus. Why don't you?

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****
Rod
2017-09-29 02:53:06 UTC
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Post by Robert
Post by duke
Scripture advises that Jesus alone never had demons. Any single act or thought
contrary to God's ways and short or long lasting means you have demons.
Scriptural cite please.
Post by duke
Post by Robert
Post by duke
Repenting and changing your life to follow in the steps of Jesus Christ is God's
recommendation.
That is destructive theology, and the rest of what you said is
obviously not true either. You go to confession constantly
No, I don't.
Then you have demons between confessions.I would almost pay
a cover charge to watch them raise hell in your head! Lol!
Post by duke
I constantly make the effort to set aside man's nature and follow
Jesus. Too bad you refuse to.
he doesn't have demons...you DO...
Post by duke
Post by Robert
and by your
admission you are constantly possessed. You are never free from it
even as you confess there are sins you have forgotten and so you leave
just as plagued as when you went in the box.
When you WANT to follow Jesus, it's very easy to live the good life that Jesus
specified. You're condemning yourself in your refusal of the Lord.
Post by Robert
Jesus came to see you free from sin and shame, that you might have
peace, and you cannot have peace as a possessed person.
You're pretty screwed up in your assessment.
He nailed you dead to rights. You admitted that you have demons
Post by duke
I have peace because I choose to
follow Jesus. Why don't you?
the dukester, American-American
Michael Christ
2017-09-29 07:58:24 UTC
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Post by Robert
Scripture advises that Jesus alone never had demons.  Any single act
or thought
contrary to God's ways and short or long lasting means you have demons.
   Scriptural cite please.
Post by duke
Post by Robert
Repenting and changing your life to follow in the steps of Jesus Christ is God's
recommendation.
That is destructive theology, and the rest of what you said is
obviously not true either. You go to confession constantly
No, I don't.
  Then you have demons between confessions.I would almost pay
  a cover charge to watch them raise hell in your head! Lol!
Post by duke
I constantly make the effort to set aside man's nature and follow
Jesus.  Too bad you refuse to.
  he doesn't have demons...you DO...
Post by duke
Post by Robert
and by your
admission you are constantly possessed. You are never free from it
even as you confess there are sins you have forgotten and so you leave
just as plagued as when you went in the box.
When you WANT to follow Jesus, it's very easy to live the good life that Jesus
specified.  You're condemning yourself in your refusal of the Lord.
Post by Robert
Jesus came to see you free from sin and shame, that you might have
peace, and you cannot have peace as a possessed person.
You're pretty screwed up in your assessment.
  He nailed you dead to rights. You admitted that you have demons
How many demons were there?

What were their names?

Are there any more?

Will they come back?

What did they do before they were cast out?

If he can cast them out, what did he do to let them in, or were they
always there?

I thought he followed Jesus teachings??

I'm confused.





Michael Christ
Post by duke
I have peace because I choose to
follow Jesus.  Why don't you?
the dukester, American-American
duke
2017-09-29 11:45:12 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by Robert
Scripture advises that Jesus alone never had demons.  Any single act
or thought
contrary to God's ways and short or long lasting means you have demons.
   Scriptural cite please.
Post by duke
Post by Robert
Repenting and changing your life to follow in the steps of Jesus Christ is God's
recommendation.
That is destructive theology, and the rest of what you said is
obviously not true either. You go to confession constantly
No, I don't.
  Then you have demons between confessions.I would almost pay
  a cover charge to watch them raise hell in your head! Lol!
Post by duke
I constantly make the effort to set aside man's nature and follow
Jesus.  Too bad you refuse to.
  he doesn't have demons...you DO...
Post by duke
Post by Robert
and by your
admission you are constantly possessed. You are never free from it
even as you confess there are sins you have forgotten and so you leave
just as plagued as when you went in the box.
When you WANT to follow Jesus, it's very easy to live the good life that Jesus
specified.  You're condemning yourself in your refusal of the Lord.
Post by Robert
Jesus came to see you free from sin and shame, that you might have
peace, and you cannot have peace as a possessed person.
You're pretty screwed up in your assessment.
  He nailed you dead to rights. You admitted that you have demons
How many demons were there?
What were their names?
Are there any more?
Will they come back?
What did they do before they were cast out?
If he can cast them out, what did he do to let them in, or were they
always there?
I thought he followed Jesus teachings??
I'm confused.
You're always that way. Haahaahaa.

the dukester, American-American


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The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
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duke
2017-09-29 11:44:34 UTC
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Post by duke
Scripture advises that Jesus alone never had demons. Any single act or thought
contrary to God's ways and short or long lasting means you have demons.
Scriptural cite please.
Hebrews 4:15New International Version (NIV)
15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our
weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we
are—yet he did not sin.
Post by Rod
Then you have demons between confessions.I would almost pay
a cover charge to watch them raise hell in your head! Lol!
If you don't go to confession, you live your life with them and then die.


the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****
nehushtan
2017-09-30 18:17:23 UTC
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snip, troll bait left.
Post by Robert
That is destructive theology, and the rest of what you said is
obviously not true either. You go to confession constantly and by your
admission you are constantly possessed. You are never free from it
even as you confess there are sins you have forgotten and so you leave
just as plagued as when you went in the box.
How would you know. Xianity according to Robert 101?
Post by Robert
Jesus came to see you free from sin and shame, that you might have
peace, and you cannot have peace as a possessed person.
According to your myth. But then, possession by evil ones is where that
claim is found. odd that.
Post by Robert
You are inviting demons in my default with statements like that,
allowing them free reign in your life, the word of God teaches that if
we resist the devil he will FLEE from us.
I'd recommend that you put yourself under the blood of Christ.
He would get wet.
--
"What can we say to a man who tells you that he would rather obey God than
men, and that
therefore he is sure to go to heaven for butchering you? Even the law is
impotent against
these attacks of rage; it is like reading a court decree to a raving
maniac. These fellows are
certain that the holy spirit with which they are filled is above the law,
that their enthusiasm is
the only law that they must obey."
[Voltaire, 1764]
duke
2017-09-24 12:01:03 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am.
Then this means that a) you don't belong to a Church or b) you are a sinning
church of 1.
Post by Michael Christ
I spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
Oh, yes, we see you trying to do that all the time.
Post by Michael Christ
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
Yep, quit trying.

the dukester, American-American


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The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
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Rod
2017-09-24 16:48:36 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am.  I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
We have churches, we have history, we have power, we have authority,
they declare, just like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time.  And the
Pharisees in Jesus' time knew a hell of a lot more about God than these
new age charlatans do!
The Pharisees would do something like debate the righteousness of
lighting a fire on the Sabbath in order to be inline with God's will,
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
The only true religion will be known by this"

James 1:27  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is
this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to
keep himself unspotted from the world.

To do this one must withdraw from the world altogether,
and yet those that live by the commands of God are those
lead others out of the world an to God by the mercy and
compassion that God show to them thru each person that
trust in Him..
Michael Christ
2017-09-24 21:42:43 UTC
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Post by Michael Christ
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am.
I spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are
out of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
We have churches, we have history, we have power, we have authority,
they declare, just like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time.  And the
Pharisees in Jesus' time knew a hell of a lot more about God than
these new age charlatans do!
The Pharisees would do something like debate the righteousness of
lighting a fire on the Sabbath in order to be inline with God's will,
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
  The only true religion will be known by this"
  James 1:27  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is
this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to
keep himself unspotted from the world.
In other words, all those who do not know God as their Father, and to be
born again.
  To do this one must withdraw from the world altogether,
Correct, a spiritual necessity.
  and yet those that live by the commands of God are those
  lead others out of the world an to God by the mercy and
  compassion that God show to them thru each person that
  trust in Him..
True. Without knowing the mercy and compassion of God for you, you can
never have mercy and compassion for others.
duke
2017-09-25 21:59:51 UTC
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Post by Rod
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am.  I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
We have churches, we have history, we have power, we have authority,
they declare, just like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time.  And the
Pharisees in Jesus' time knew a hell of a lot more about God than these
new age charlatans do!
The Pharisees would do something like debate the righteousness of
lighting a fire on the Sabbath in order to be inline with God's will,
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
The only true religion will be known by this"
James 1:27  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is
this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to
keep himself unspotted from the world.
To do this one must withdraw from the world altogether,
Not true. Man is a sinner by nature, but God gave us in choice the way to avoid
it. God is not concerned over minor sins which do not lead to death. But in
blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, it's a serious grace destroying action.

1 John 5:16-17New International Version (NIV)
16 If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death,
you should pray and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not
lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you
should pray about that. 17 All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not
lead to death.
Post by Rod
and yet those that live by the commands of God are those
lead others out of the world an to God by the mercy and
compassion that God show to them thru each person that
trust in Him..
the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****
Rod
2017-09-26 23:29:12 UTC
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Post by Rod
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am.  I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
We have churches, we have history, we have power, we have authority,
they declare, just like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time.  And the
Pharisees in Jesus' time knew a hell of a lot more about God than these
new age charlatans do!
The Pharisees would do something like debate the righteousness of
lighting a fire on the Sabbath in order to be inline with God's will,
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
The only true religion will be known by this"
James 1:27  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is
this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to
keep himself unspotted from the world.
To do this one must withdraw from the world altogether,
Not true.
Very true, double tongue duke. Christs words resonate today
as they did 2,000 years ago, and the following verses make
it clear that those He choses are no longer a part of this
world. And hated for being different spiritually I am.


Joh_15:19  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own:
but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the
world, therefore the world hateth you.

John_17:12  While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name:
those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the
son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

John_17:13  And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the
world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

John_17:14  I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them,
because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

John_17:15  I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world,
but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

John_17:16  They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
Post by duke
Man is a sinner by nature,
Man is a sinner because he did something stupid,
not because God made him with that flaw. Man began
as untouched, not subject to the law of death.
Post by duke
but God gave us in choice the way to avoid
it. God is not concerned over minor sins which do not lead to death.
God is concerned with all sin. Another lie from you.
duke
2017-09-27 18:42:53 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by Rod
All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am.  I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
We have churches, we have history, we have power, we have authority,
they declare, just like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time.  And the
Pharisees in Jesus' time knew a hell of a lot more about God than these
new age charlatans do!
The Pharisees would do something like debate the righteousness of
lighting a fire on the Sabbath in order to be inline with God's will,
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
The only true religion will be known by this"
James 1:27  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is
this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to
keep himself unspotted from the world.
To do this one must withdraw from the world altogether,
Not true.
Very true, double tongue duke.
"Unspotted" is a pipe dream that no man can achieve.
Post by Rod
Post by duke
but God gave us in choice the way to avoid
it. God is not concerned over minor sins which do not lead to death.
God is concerned with all sin. Another lie from you.
It's not a lie. Scripture says minor sins can be forgiven in the next life. But
not major sins like blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

I take that to mean you better rush quickly to the Confessional if you want the
heavenly Kingdom of God.

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****
Michael Christ
2017-09-24 21:51:37 UTC
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All the organised religions are false. Sorry about that, I really am.  I
spent quite of a lot of time in my early years as a Christian
compassionately seeking to find positive ways to be a part of these
religious clubs as the Lord had me mingling among them.
Unfortunately, all these fallen people do is seek to establish
themselves as 'God's spokesman', and declare to everyone, if you are out
of step with us, you are out of step with God.
Does that ring a bell??
We have churches, we have history, we have power, we have authority,
they declare, just like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time.  And the
Pharisees in Jesus' time knew a hell of a lot more about God than these
new age charlatans do!
The Pharisees would do something like debate the righteousness of
lighting a fire on the Sabbath in order to be inline with God's will,
but these modern religious hypocrites will say and do **whatever they
want** in their sinful ways, and just fob off their condition with a
'I'm a sinner but I have faith in God'.
God is not so easily fooled though; faith is not of sin.
Michael Christ
So many have invested their lives in a lie. My heart goes out to them,
it always has.

But the truth of the matter is this...

Mat_23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem [the world, the world, for He died for
the sins of the whole world], thou that killest the prophets, and
stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered
thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her
wings, and ye would not!

...they want to do things their own way.






Michael Christ
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